AWKWARD ZOMBIE

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About what? Locking this topic or saying it was a waste of time?

Well, to be honest, I'm pretty slow on the pick-up and I'm easy to lead around, so maybe that's why I like what the Game Overthinker says. He pointed out a bunch of things that I never realized, like how the people who claims "video games cause violence" don't really have anything to go by other than their firm belief, and that we should fight smart instead of just throwing a fit.

I'll admit, he did lay on the VG propaganda pretty thick, but I think that's just because he's an intense gamer, and so am I for that matter. So yeah, I like it, and I'm taking his words to heart.

But I don't get why this topic needs to be locked just because you didn't like the video. We can still talk about the subject in general.

Hang on, what?

I mean, I'm not going to bash you whether you believe they have a fair point or not (and in all fairness, I do say videogames desensitises people to violence; which I also say is a good thing), but the guy didn't actually have a single point as to why he thinks they're basing it on faith or stupidity or not. He just said "They're crazy insane faith-based idiots!" and "There's no reputable study done on something that can't have a study done on". Either I missed about 10 minutes of the video, or you need to stop following propaganda just because someone with a loud voice said so.


Because it won't spark any conversation beyond "This video is rubbish" (at least, thats what I thought at the time. PD202 sorta brought something up), and I wouldn't define that as being on topic about videogames and hard censorship. Which itself pretty much doesn't exist thanks to the age rating system.

German politicians are trying to ban all violent video games before the next election, so yeah. I doubt that they'll succeed, though.
On topic, I didn't get anything out of this video. Mostly because video game censorship in the US probably wouldn't affect me, but also because he really doesn't prove anything. I'd like it more if he had quoted some reliable sources, I suppose.
And that whole "great video game violence debate" thing was just sad. At first I thought he was joking there.

I don't know, this is the country that managed to ban each and every reference to Nazis ever. And had several games (such as TeamFortressClassic, Turok, C&C games, Resident Evil 4...) that replaced every human character with robots.

Alright, so there's a very odd few issues with censorship still, but only in twisted countries.

Only in games. In TV, movies and especially in school, the Third Reich is a very prominent topic. Still, there's no real way for you to know about that without doing a lot of research.

TeamFortress comes from the original Half-Life being censored that way, so yes, you're right there.
You're also right about Turok and C&C.
As for Resident Evil 4, you're wrong.
I could say now that that was only in the old days, but TF2 was censored in a similar fashion; blood and body parts were replaced with machine parts and other random stuff.
Censorship around here isn't as strict anymore as it used to be, but it's still very present. I just remembered that in Half-Life 2, for example, there's almost no blood and corpses just disappear after a short time.
So, yes, you are right about Germany's strange laws regarding censorship. But by violent video games, I meant everything that's violent. Not only stuff for ages 18 and up or even 16 and up. Everything with a clear depiction of violence. You know how Link rams the Master Sword into Ganondorf's forehead in Wind Waker? Stuff like that wouldn't make it through. And a law like that just seems unrealistic. Still, my opinion here is as good as yours, sadly.

If you had been paying attention, you would have known that he said they were "Believers", meaning they're either stupid, crazy, or knowingly lying.

Yes, that is what he said. Without any factual base to back it up. That's just what he "believes."

I go back on what I said before; that isn't a very well-made point.

The Game Overthinker? Are you fucking kidding me? Get the fuck out of here.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If you want someone who can do these things well, go and watch Daniel Floyds "Videogames and.." videos. His thing on tangential learning was a really interesting idea, one that I found both simple and brilliant. And his thing on the Uncanny valley, in stark contrast to the Game Overthinkers, was not a 6 minute rant against modern games that dare not feature flowers and boners in a circlejerk, but was actually balanced, giving good reasons for both.

Plus, his voice isn't annoying.

EDIT: I've watched his work before, but I just reviewed it. What I like about Daniel Floyd is that his video lectures are made for his college class (I think). That means they're held to a higher standard. He does lots of research, calls in the opinions of experts (although, never lets them speak), and presents solid points that are compiled well and hard to argue with, unlike VGO. And he has a good sense of humor that corresponds well with his drawings. And I just realized that no one's posted a link yet. Here.

Well, its less annoying.

While that was the case for the first one, I think that after that he made them solely for youtube. After all, if the guy actually got up in front of his class and started talking about videogames and sex, he must be completely embarrassment proof

NO U